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		<title>Comment on [freedom begins here] by Steve Snediker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Snediker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the lead producer on the FBH project (I&#039;m also an passionate worship leader and survivor of the 70&#039;s), I can tell you that we still have a long way to go before the church is really ready to address this issue corporately.  Sexual addiction is the ultimate hot potato in the church today.  Pastors are being confronted with it in counseling situations, in men&#039;s groups, and in their own lives.  Yet, more often than I wish to enumerate, we get this frightening response from local church pastors when we call to tell them about FBH -- &quot;Oh, we don&#039;t have that problem here.&quot;  

The ROF guys have taken an enormous risk by partnering with FBH.  But the task is so much bigger than that.  If 50 percent of Christian men are addicted to pornography, then the other 50 percent need to be equipped to walk along side these struggling brothers and make a differnce.  NOW.  We can&#039;t do it alone.  ROF can&#039;t do it alone.  But one on one, you can make a difference.  Be accountable.  Live free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the lead producer on the FBH project (I&#8217;m also an passionate worship leader and survivor of the 70&#8242;s), I can tell you that we still have a long way to go before the church is really ready to address this issue corporately.  Sexual addiction is the ultimate hot potato in the church today.  Pastors are being confronted with it in counseling situations, in men&#8217;s groups, and in their own lives.  Yet, more often than I wish to enumerate, we get this frightening response from local church pastors when we call to tell them about FBH &#8212; &#8220;Oh, we don&#8217;t have that problem here.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The ROF guys have taken an enormous risk by partnering with FBH.  But the task is so much bigger than that.  If 50 percent of Christian men are addicted to pornography, then the other 50 percent need to be equipped to walk along side these struggling brothers and make a differnce.  NOW.  We can&#8217;t do it alone.  ROF can&#8217;t do it alone.  But one on one, you can make a difference.  Be accountable.  Live free.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [freedom begins here] by Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey this is a pretty cool site.  Read through the sex notes.  Loved the joke about the grits and coffee!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey this is a pretty cool site.  Read through the sex notes.  Loved the joke about the grits and coffee!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on [expelled :: no intelligence allowed] by ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting.  I am sure that this will be all over the news if it is indeed the case.  

However, it does seem that the public evidence stands in favor of Ben Stein&#039;s argument.  Just look at some of the court cases against Intelligent Design in the past year.

Still, I am looking forward to seeing the movie so that I can judge the validity of his argument for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting.  I am sure that this will be all over the news if it is indeed the case.  </p>
<p>However, it does seem that the public evidence stands in favor of Ben Stein&#8217;s argument.  Just look at some of the court cases against Intelligent Design in the past year.</p>
<p>Still, I am looking forward to seeing the movie so that I can judge the validity of his argument for myself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [expelled :: no intelligence allowed] by Benjamin Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This films&#039; main thesis, that anyone in the science community who believes in God, or is a Darwin dissenter is being &quot;expelled&quot; is false at its core.

In a New York Times interview, Walter Ruloff (producer of Expelled) said that researchers, who had studied cellular mechanisms, made findings suggestive of an intelligent designer. &quot;But they are afraid to report them&quot;.
Mr. Ruloff also cited Dr. Francis S. Collins, a geneticist who directs the National Human Genome Research Institute and whose book, “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief”, explains how he came to embrace his Christian faith. &lt;b&gt;Mr. Ruloff said that Dr. Collins separates his religious beliefs from his scientific work only because “he is toeing the party line”.

That’s “just ludicrous,” Dr. Collins said&lt;/b&gt; in a telephone interview. While many of his scientific colleagues are not religious and some are “a bit puzzled” by his faith, he said, “they are generally very respectful.” He said that if the problem Mr. Ruloff describes existed, he is certain he would know about it.

Similarly, Dr. Ken Miller is a professed Christian who wrote &quot;Finding Darwin&#039;s God&quot; (which I suggest you read). Dr. Miller has not been &quot;expelled&quot; in any fashion for his belief in God.

The movie tries to make the case that &quot;Big Science&quot; is nothing but a huge atheist conspiracy out to silence believers, but only presents a very one-sided look at some of the Discovery Institute&#039;s &quot;martyrs&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;Carolyn Crocker &quot;expelled&quot;? - No.&lt;/b&gt;
Her annual teaching contract was not renewed. Was she &quot;fired&quot; for daring to bring God into research? - No. She was hired to teach Cell Biology, and she decided to ignore the schools&#039; curriculum and substitute her own curriculum.

&lt;b&gt;Guillermo Gonzalez &quot;expelled&quot;? - No.&lt;/b&gt;
He was not granted tenure. The film doesn&#039;t bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he had only brought in only a miniscule amount of grant money. Nor does it bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he failed to mentor a single student through to their PhD. Nor does it mention that in his career at ISU, his previous excellent record of publication had dropped precipitously.

&lt;b&gt;Richard von Sternberg &quot;expelled&quot;? - No.&lt;/b&gt;
Sternberg continues to work for NIH in the same capacity. Of course the movie doesn&#039;t bring up his underhanded tactics in getting Meyers work published.

This movie attempts to influence it&#039;s viewers with dishonesty, half-truths, and by a completely one-sided presentation of the facts.
 
If a scientists&#039; research is not accepted by the scientific community, it isn&#039;t because the scientist either believes or doesn&#039;t believe in God or Darwin, it is usually because they are producing bad science.</description>
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<p>In a New York Times interview, Walter Ruloff (producer of Expelled) said that researchers, who had studied cellular mechanisms, made findings suggestive of an intelligent designer. &#8220;But they are afraid to report them&#8221;.<br />
Mr. Ruloff also cited Dr. Francis S. Collins, a geneticist who directs the National Human Genome Research Institute and whose book, “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief”, explains how he came to embrace his Christian faith. <b>Mr. Ruloff said that Dr. Collins separates his religious beliefs from his scientific work only because “he is toeing the party line”.</p>
<p>That’s “just ludicrous,” Dr. Collins said</b> in a telephone interview. While many of his scientific colleagues are not religious and some are “a bit puzzled” by his faith, he said, “they are generally very respectful.” He said that if the problem Mr. Ruloff describes existed, he is certain he would know about it.</p>
<p>Similarly, Dr. Ken Miller is a professed Christian who wrote &#8220;Finding Darwin&#8217;s God&#8221; (which I suggest you read). Dr. Miller has not been &#8220;expelled&#8221; in any fashion for his belief in God.</p>
<p>The movie tries to make the case that &#8220;Big Science&#8221; is nothing but a huge atheist conspiracy out to silence believers, but only presents a very one-sided look at some of the Discovery Institute&#8217;s &#8220;martyrs&#8221;.</p>
<p><b>Carolyn Crocker &#8220;expelled&#8221;? &#8211; No.</b><br />
Her annual teaching contract was not renewed. Was she &#8220;fired&#8221; for daring to bring God into research? &#8211; No. She was hired to teach Cell Biology, and she decided to ignore the schools&#8217; curriculum and substitute her own curriculum.</p>
<p><b>Guillermo Gonzalez &#8220;expelled&#8221;? &#8211; No.</b><br />
He was not granted tenure. The film doesn&#8217;t bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he had only brought in only a miniscule amount of grant money. Nor does it bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he failed to mentor a single student through to their PhD. Nor does it mention that in his career at ISU, his previous excellent record of publication had dropped precipitously.</p>
<p><b>Richard von Sternberg &#8220;expelled&#8221;? &#8211; No.</b><br />
Sternberg continues to work for NIH in the same capacity. Of course the movie doesn&#8217;t bring up his underhanded tactics in getting Meyers work published.</p>
<p>This movie attempts to influence it&#8217;s viewers with dishonesty, half-truths, and by a completely one-sided presentation of the facts.</p>
<p>If a scientists&#8217; research is not accepted by the scientific community, it isn&#8217;t because the scientist either believes or doesn&#8217;t believe in God or Darwin, it is usually because they are producing bad science.</p>
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